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Startups train in-house AI models

Bloomberg reported that Harvey’s margins swung sharply as usage of its AI agents rose, and that the company and others have since shifted towards open-weight or in-house models to cut costs and dependence on frontier labs.

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Bloomberg reported that Harvey’s gross margin fell from about 50% at the start of the year to minus 50% by June as customer use of its AI agents rose. The company was valued at $15.6B and said its token usage had increased twentyfold this year.

Harvey released its first in-house model in August, after post-training it on Moonshot’s Kimi K3. People familiar with the work told Bloomberg that margins turned positive again after that launch and other changes to how the company used AI, and Harvey declined to comment on specific financials.

Abridge was building a clinical model on Nvidia’s open weights, Decagon said it was sending 80% of customer queries to models it owned, and Ramp said it was considering training a model for the first time after raising $750M in June. Rogo was also making a similar move, and Sequoia Capital and General Catalyst were backing the shift.

Anthropic showed an investor-forum slide about startups building their own models, while Mistral chief executive Arthur Mensch argued in July that closed models gave providers leverage. OpenAI later moved to end Cursor’s contract after SpaceX bought the company, citing past terms-of-service breaches by Musk businesses.

Legora, based in Stockholm, said it had reached $100M in revenue in 18 months and served more than 1,200 firms, but it did not say which models it used. Menlo Ventures partner Matt Kraning said model ownership was the wrong question and often amounted to cosplay.

Named in this story

People

Arthur Mensch
Mistral’s chief executive who argued that closed models give providers leverage
Matt Kraning
the Menlo Ventures partner who said model ownership was the wrong question

Companies

Harvey
the legal startup whose margins fell and later recovered after launching its own model
Abridge
the company building a clinical model on Nvidia’s open weights
Decagon
the company that said it routed 80% of customer queries through its own models
Ramp
the company that raised $750M in June and was weighing model training for the first time
Rogo
the company making a similar move towards its own models
Sequoia Capital
the investor funding the shift towards open-weight and in-house models
General Catalyst
the investor funding the shift towards open-weight and in-house models
Moonshot
the Chinese lab whose model Harvey used for post-training
Nvidia
the company whose open weights Abridge used
OpenAI
the company that moved to end Cursor’s contract
Anthropic
the company that showed a slide on startups building their own models
Mistral
the company whose chief executive argued that closed models give providers leverage
Windsurf
the company that Arthur Mensch said Anthropic had cut off
Cursor
the company whose contract OpenAI moved to end after SpaceX bought it
SpaceX
the company that bought Cursor
Legora
the Stockholm legal startup that said it had reached $100M in revenue
Menlo Ventures
the firm where Matt Kraning is a partner

Products and systems

Kimi K3
the Moonshot model Harvey post-trained on

How the source tells it

The source was mostly straight reporting, with a brisk, slightly stylised register and no sustained alarmism or boosterism.

No emotive framing was found in the original.